A World in Conversation

Oftentimes, after posting a blog, someone leaves me a comment that confuses me.  I reread it slowly, several times, hoping that the comment's meaning will become clear to me.  The confusion is the result of my failure to correlate - to find a reciprocal relation between the comment's meaning and my blog.

 

Unable to do anything else, I offer a confused response to my reader's comment.  Clearly, they are addressing a meaning they found in my blog, however, not for the lack of trying, I am at a loss as to what meaning they have perceived.  The comment usually has a sense of disagreement or at times, an effort to enlighten me.  Perhaps the best response at these times would be - no response but it feels unkind not to acknowledge their effort to communicate with me.  They have taken the time to comment and that they give of their time, is valuable to me.

 

There is no answer to this problem except for searching clearer ways to share my ideas.  I am better in conversation since there is much more information to help me understand what is in the mind of another.  What's more, the other would see loving intent on my face.  Here, interacting with a paragraph of words (a comment response to a blog), it is more difficult to find that mutual understanding.  

 

We, humans, are in constant conversation.  The other day, as I entered a library, suddenly, I heard voices issuing forth from within the back to back thousands of books waiting for a listener -a reader. For the more linear, this is a metaphor, I did not literally hear voices.  I cognized the many genres of conversation the world's people are engaged in.   Oral dialogue is how I usually think of a conversation but that day, I realized many other forms of conversation exist.

 

One of them is when we share our thoughts through a written longer form.  Oral dialogue, although, offering the clearest way of sharing ideas,  has a huge drawback.  Abstract ideas require patience to listen, curiosity to learn what's being said and paraphrasing to communicate there is an understanding.  Both people have to offer time and an interest to understand each other.

 

Oral dialogue is the worst conductor of abstract ideas.  This is where writing excels.  Blogging is a mixture of writing and instant response (as we find in oral dialogue).  When I began blogging in 2009, I  hoped that this form of conversation would offer a bridge for a more effective way of figuring out this life's confusion with each other. 

 

I imagined that after posting a blog, another blogger, if interested, of course, would 'listen patiently', 'curiously ask questions to determine the blog's content, and if inspired to add something, write their own personal blog in response.  I was disappointed to learn, the same blocks that exist in oral dialogue apply to this genre of conversation.

 

I keep hoping that this will change.  I hope that if you have a response, you will be inspired to write a responding blog and leave me a link so that we may continue in blogging conversation.  If not, and if you do respond, in whatever manner you decide, I will do my best to understand and respond. If my best is not good enough, I hope you have the compassion to understand, I am a learning being that may never learn what you know unless of course, you decide to try and explain in a longer format of communication.

 

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Comments (14)

  1. EZWAYZ

    Lol, I’ll use less verbiage just hit the like button

    April 30, 2017
    1. greunie

      It wasn’t your comment I was referring to. With yours, I was able to ask for more but the other, I just didn’t know what to say. I hope that you will use more verbiage and write a blog!

      May 01, 2017
      1. greunie
        - a comment responding blog!

        May 01, 2017
  2. dincali

    i like this. i have always found you to be profound and very interesting

    May 01, 2017
    1. greunie

      Thanks for telling me, I hope that if you ever disagree that you write me a blog so that I can learn more of your viewpoint.

      May 01, 2017
      1. dincali

        of course

        May 01, 2017
  3. depressedgirl

    YOu always have great blogs. They always make me think. Sometimes I don’t totally understand what you have said. So I don’t respond with too many words. I feel it is some fault within me that I don’t understand your blog as well as I should. You are such a great writer. I wish I could think of some response to write a blog in answer to this blog that I do understand. As it turns out, I am very depressed tonight. Life is getting to be so hard, I am finding it extremely difficult to deal with it. I just don’t know what to do anymore. I will try to keep on keeping on, but I just don’t know if I can anymore.

    May 01, 2017
    1. greunie

      Life does turn difficult at times especially if we have health challenges. I am sad that you are facing such hardship. My friend who is undergoing great challenges told me she is guiding herself with a couple of principles in the serenity prayer. She decides what she cannot change – whatever that may be. She told me that trying to resist what stubbornly has befallen her, drains her energy for realizing the problems that can be solved. She takes what simple next step she can act on, even if that means merely brushing her teeth. Whenever I phone her and ask her how it’s going, she says, “Adjusting daily.” Life is an ongoing flow of problems to solve, sometimes, they come in a flood. I have faith you will handle what needs to be.

      May 02, 2017
      1. depressedgirl

        Thanks so much. You are so level headed, but I am not sometimes. I get overwhelmed easily. I can take a lot and then it gets to be so much on me I can’t deal. Thanks. I will try and act the way your friend does. It sound like a great idea. You always help me, Unie. I think a lot of you. I miss you when I don’t hear blogs from you. Thanks again.

        May 02, 2017
  4. scarletts_letters

    I have been arrogant enough to tell myself often that I understand people, doing the thing that I often deplore in others of dehumanising and removing the idea of individuality. This is not only something that I have personally been injured by but had tried to repair in myself, in slow difficult works. Strangely though through my schooling I have become more adept in recognising abstractions as more complex illustrations off pattern and I always wonder if this is not a human bias? How can I not be biased in ways that make me up? Theory, data, results and interpretation then questioning the results with as diverse viewpoints as I can find.
    Then someone will say something or comment on something I have resolved and I won’t know what to say to them, sometimes I fall into the old habit of resentment or belittling, sometimes people either fail to comprehend or they need to say something to not feel belittled, other times they just want your company.
    Language is a shorthand for the mind, until we are telepathic then we will miscommunicate and misunderstand.

    May 02, 2017
    1. greunie

      Even with your comment, so well written and worded, I say – mmm? – what does she mean by this or that? Your last line, however, I understand without reservation! We miscommunicate and misunderstand. We use words, our greatest tool to share ideas, but we are trapped within the Bable parable – speaking different languages. I read a couple of thoughts in your comment that I would ask for further words.
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      Your wondering if recognizing abstractions as more complex illustrations of patterns is a human bias? When I read that, the question rose – how else can abstractions, that by their very nature are non-concrete, not be complex to share? … you see I am confused and need more of your thoughts.
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      To me, our miscommunication problem adds up to one. We don’t realize how very complex sharing ideas are. Or is that what your comment was saying?

      May 02, 2017
      1. scarletts_letters

        I apologise these days I seem to have problems being concise. In maths and science simplicity on the surface hides the underlying complexities. I’ve recently been seeing a man who is a philosophy major, and I myself struggle with that subject, we of course have long and complicated discussions about the nature of things and of being. I’ve had to learn to be quiet and think about things I would rather ignore or dismiss.
        One day when I was in a physics class it struck me that the thing I/we where doing in class was what I was not doing with my friend, and that was seriously and without bias trying to see how he arrived at a point or the validity of that point using his scale rather than mine.
        Humans have evolved to see pattern and to cling to pattern as an answer, or as a signpost, and yes you are absolutely right that we are biased to that. Often in science, as I have noted in other fields the person who makes significant inroads to a problem isn’t literal but more creative in their way of seeing.
        Where I was frustrated and borderline angry at some of his beliefs I’m now making efforts to take myself out of my biases and really see from that point of view, this has not helped my work but it has made a huge difference to relating to others.
        Knowing this, and using his or someone else’s outlook I’ve found it far simpler to relate what I think I know. Now if I could just quell that temper

        May 06, 2017
        1. greunie

          Perhaps, your anger is appropriate. Perhaps, you are an intelligent passionate idealist like me. Whenever in conversation and I would share my anger, people would comment on my idealism. This confused me for many years until I understood why I was angry.
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          My anger was a result of seeing that what is – sucks. I understood that anger was a result of my idealism. I wanted a better world. What I didn’t get is that if I saw a better world, it was this sight that would change the world. It is the idealists that bring forth change. My anger was the force required to invent a way and act. This world needs a googol of idealists working patiently to make a better world. Perhaps this applies to you too?

          May 06, 2017
          1. scarletts_letters

            I’m honoured, thank you. Despite everything I can’t seem to let go of hope that slowly we are moving to a more sane, more humane world. I’ve been shown more than ones that history bares this out, the thing that upsets me is reversals, losses of right – especially women’s rights.
            A large part is that I feel powerless and too small to do anything, yet far from giving up it seems to burn more and more in me not less.
            I do hope that idealists are on the increase and they will make a difference, at the moment we seem to be in a bleak patch. Rather than an acceptance that we are all the same, with that an acknowledgement that we should be fair to each other there seems to be a hard turn to the opposite. Something keeps me sane and it’s a quote I heard once that seems to play out over and over throughout history that revolution followed revolution, a lunge to the far right will become a swing to the left.
            Gradually with two steps forward and one back we are slowly improving but it is painful to watch the death machines and greed win so often.

            May 11, 2017